WoNN TALK

Post any questions, comments, suggestions, or tips about Netflix (or this blog) that aren't related to a specific post. Topics might include: your preferred method of finding expiring titles, your favorite Netflix browser add-on, any weird rumors you've heard about streaming services, or even a movie or show that unexpectedly knocked your socks off. The floor is yours...

43 comments:

Carol said...

I'm curious about all the tech stuff in comments, and wonder if there's something I'm missing out on that I would kick myself if I knew about. When you guys start talking Roku, foxfire, etc., I'm never sure what is being questioned or explained, or if it might ever be relevant to me.

I currently have an older computer running older software and watch Netflix streaming right on the computer in SD - I'm thinking it couldn't be any lower tech. I know it's possible to connect to a television so that movies can be watched on that screen. I will probably get what I need to do this at some point.

Are there some good websites that explain the technology people talk about on this blog? And what the heck is Flix Plus?

I don't expect anyone to spend a lot of time explaining all of this, but if there's somewhere you could point to that I could educate myself, it would be much appreciated.

David Speranza said...

Hey, Carol, thanks for jumping into these uncharted waters. Since you currently watch Netflix on your computer, Flix Plus would be a great add-on (assuming you use the Chrome browser). Here's a recent article about it explaining how it enhances navigation:

http://lifehacker.com/flix-plus-customizes-every-corner-of-netflixs-new-inter-1715305787

Even though I don't watch programs on my computer, I do spend a lot of time on the Netflix website (naturally) and I love all the little Flix Plus extras like links to other sites, access to trailers, and keyboard shortcuts. The list sorter--once they get it working again--also shows promise. If you don't use Chrome to browse, I'd suggest trying it, even if only for watching Netflix. Heck, if all the add-on did was turn of post-play (which it does), it would be worth it!

As for Roku (or Apple TV, or Amazon Fire TV, or Playstation, et al.), those are set-top boxes that connect the Internet to your TV via home Wi-Fi, and they really transform the streaming experience (esp. if you have a nice HDTV). The only downside, as mentioned in my recent post, is that the interface on some of them can make you want to pull your hair out. So, it's a trade-off. ;-)

Hope that helps! Anyone else feel like chiming in?

Carol said...

Thanks David, that all helps a lot. I do use Chrome, so I will definitely check out Flix Plus. I agree with everything you have said about the post-play issue. I really resent the disrespect to credits, and to those of us who WANT to know the who/what/where details of the filmmaking, not to mention that sometimes the action continues after credits start to roll. It's not like those who don't care couldn't stop the stream. Sheesh!

Carol said...

Sorry, I'm not going for a monopoly on WoNN Talk comments, but now I have a question about the new format for the blog.

Is the current plan to have a What's New post and also a What's Expiring post on the Home page each month (as you have done for August)? Obviously, we should put our lists of each type in the comments for the appropriate post.

Do you want only such lists on those posts, and pretty much everything else on the WoNN Talk page? It would make it easier to scan down the lists if that's all there was.

Just checking. I want to make sure I look, and comment in the right place. Thanks.

David Speranza said...

Yes, Carol, in an ideal world that's how things would work. But it's still an evolving process, dependent on my available time and the whims of Netflix. And of course any discussions of new or expiring titles (beyond simple lists) are still welcome on those other posts.

Brian Clarkson said...

It's nice to be able to stream Netflix via the Roku. Currently using a streaming stick that attaches to the HDMI port on the TV. It's a lot quicker than the Roku 1 that I had.

As a bonus, for $5 bucks (one time purchase), you can get Netflix Instant Watch Browser for the Roku which is pretty good in that you can edit the queue and see at a glance which films are expected to expire soon so that you can get to them. The only drawback is that it doesn't always update when you'd like it to. And it doesn't list all titles.

Now, I have used Netflix on the computer some and I'm more than OK with it on some things like documentaries, for example. But when it comes to films that require you to see the big picture, it can be lacking.

I'll agree that Netflix should consider usability when it comes to future updates. It's nice that they want the interface to look better, but they'll lose customers if they get frustrated by having to stop a film because they were wanting to look at the cast or basic plot as they're browsing it.

will g said...

I only watch Netflix on my desktop computer, with a 23-inch monitor. I agree that a laptop or tablet screen is insufficient, but the picture is beautiful on my monitor. It's one of the few benefits of having an old-fashioned desktop.

LarryG said...

Hey, David,
I was wondering... What do the minutes ago, hours ago, days ago, weeks ago mean under the Related Sites section on the sidebar?
Are you contributing to other sites, too?

David Speranza said...

Hi, LarryG. No, those aren't sites I contribute to but are ones I recommend (2-3 of which are by friends). The times refer to when each site was last updated.

Carol said...

Just want to report that I am now a Flix Plus convert. Thanks, David, your info helped a lot. I heartily recommend for anyone who views on their computer, or uses it to research movies on Netflix. I like the Rotten Tomatoes scores, and the soon-to-expire movies hi-lited at the top of the My List page. For anyone else who is not familiar with it, give it a try. It's FREE! My only disappointment was that the post-play turn-off only works with HTML5, and not with Silverlight. I'm a little chicken to make too many changes. But that isn't that big of a deal for me - I just mouse-click the shrunken window back up to size. Anyway, yay Flix Plus!

Brian Clarkson said...

I too have tried Flix Plus on my larger computer. Although I changed my mind on blocking pictures/descriptions, for the most part, it does work great. Although I still need to try to see if the block postplay feature works, I'm satisfied with it so far.

Pox Voldius said...

The Flix Plus block postplay feature works for me. I just wish the features it adds on My List would load faster -- it's like being on AOL dial-up in the 1990's. But maybe that's just my internet connection. In this town, last I checked, the only way you get decent internet speeds is if you're willing to put up with both unreasonable prices *and* data caps.

Pox Voldius said...

Anyone else having a problem with the notes feature on Flix Plus where after putting in so many notes it's like nearly any note you try to put in past that point just disappears as soon as you leave the page? Like there's some kind of cap on how many notes it'll remember, or something?

Carol said...

Pox Voldius: I just noticed Notes for the first time today. I'm still getting used to Flix Plus. It seems like a cool feature, but I'm not sure what kind of notes to make - what do you find useful? I'll try them, and let you know if I run into the same trouble as you have. Maybe they're not fully functional, like the sort feature. On the plus side, my block post-play is working now.

Linklisa said...

In case it helps anyone whose tastes are similar to mine (high ratings for foreign, indie, and documentaries), these are all the movies that Netflix rates 4.5 or higher for me, that have been listed by this group (as of 9/2) as expiring in September.

Of course there are other worthy titles, which would rate this high for others or almost this high for me. Your mileage will vary, but I thought that sharing these might keep some of us from missing some gems in the midst of the overwhelming number of Epix titles expiring.

9/9
War Witch (2012)

9/12
High Fidelity (2000)

9/14
Reel Injun (2009)

9/20
Mud (2012)

9/30
Altman (2014)
Anita (2014)
Cantinflas (2014)
Cesar Chavez (2014)
Charles Bradley: Soul of America (2012)
Defiance (2008)
Eco Pirate: The Story of Paul Watson (2011)
Go West (1925)
Griefwalker (2008)
His Girl Friday (1940)
Hugo (2011)
In a World... (2013)
Korczak (1990)
Korkoro (2009)
Much Ado About Nothing (2013)
Nosferatu (1922)
One Nation Under God (1993)
Perlasca (2002)
Popeye (1980)
Power and Terror: Noam Chomsky (2002)
Russell Brand: Messiah Complex (2014)
Salt of This Sea (2008)
Saved! (2004)
Schooled: The Price of College Sports (2013)
Seven Chances (1925)
Sherlock Jr. (1924)
Star Trek Into Darkness (2013)
Steamboat Bill, Jr. (1928)
Still Mine (2013)
Stories We Tell (2013)
Tell Me and I Will Forget (2010)
The Battleship Potemkin (1925)
The Conspirator (2011)
The Eleanor Roosevelt Story (1965)
The General (1926)
The Guv'nor (1935)
The Hunger Games: Catching Fire (2013)
The Improv: 50 Years Behind the Brick Wall (2013)
The Inevitable Defeat of Mister & Pete (2013)
The Lady Vanishes (1938)
The Music Never Stopped (2010)
The Skeleton Twins (2014)
The Thing Called Love (1993)
The Unknown Soldier (2007)
To Russia with Love (2014)
Two in the Wave (2009)
With One Voice (2009)
Words and Pictures (2014)

will g said...

@Linklisa I see from your list that four Epix titles are expiring before 9/30. Those four had already appeared on David's list. Unless you actually plugged every one of the 613 titles into DVD search to see if they have an earlier date, then we can't assume that 9/30 is the correct date for the remainder of the 613. Did you search them all? Or did you just recognize those four from David's list? I'm asking because I might try to do a DVD search on all of them if you haven't already.

Linklisa said...

@Will I listed dates as I had seen them in earlier comments, so I don't know if they're accurate going further than a week out. When I looked up the titles in fantasticangel's list, some didn't appear in Netflix streaming. That could be due to human error, variations in title, or to Epix sneaking some of them away before the end of the month as they have apparently done before. 9/30 might not be the actual expiration date. I don't have a DVD subscription, so it would be great if you could do a search. Thanks.

will g said...

Okay thanks. Hopefully I'll have some time this weekend to do it.

will g said...

BTW I think it's silly that you can't search the DVD side without a DVD subscription. The whole site should be searchable for non-members.

Pox Voldius said...

@Carol - I use the Flix Plus notes for expiration dates that have been reported here but have yet to actually appear on My List, and also for info about Oscar nominations & wins.

@will g - You can search the DVD side without a DVD subscription if you go to http://dvd.netflix.com/BrowseSelection instead of clicking the "DVDs" link they have at the top of the page on the streaming side. But I'm not sure whether the DVD search displays the expiration dates on the search results (or the detail pages) if you don't have a DVD subscription. I haven't been able to find the expiration dates there anyhow.

Pox Voldius said...

Anyone ever click "Play" on a title in My List (in manual mode) and get redirected to the detail page for an entirely different movie? It's happened to me at least 2 or 3 times this weekend alone. :/

Carol said...

Pox Voldius: Yes, I've had the same experience with getting an unrelated movie detail page when I click Play. I haven't tried to figure that out, I just move on and get the movie I want to see.

Also, thanks for the ideas for notes. I did finally think to use them for expiration dates, in one of my many, "Duh!" moments, but the Oscar idea hadn't occurred to me - I like it.

I haven't run into the problem of notes that don't stick, but maybe I haven't put enough on. What is the approximate breaking point?

Linklisa: Thanks for the list. Very helpful for this like-minded viewer.

Pox Voldius said...

The breaking point on the Flix Plus notes seems to be somewhere just past 100. (Assuming that it's the # of notes, and not something else like the total # of characters used in all notes combined.) I dunno if it's just buggy, or if they limit server storage space available per user, or what.

Wellesley72 said...

How stupid does Netflix think we are? First, they dump the Epix catalog on the premise that we can see these movies on other platforms. Duh...sure we can but ONLY if we subscribe to another platform. (Is Netflix really telling us to subscribe to Hulu or to buy an Amazon Prime subscriptio?). Then, when Amazon Prime announces it will let viewers download content to watch off-line (helpful for those vacations when access to the Internet is spotty or non-existent), Netflix not only states that they WON'T allow downloads, they ridicule Amazon and insult us by saying too many choices will "confuse" customers. I guess they mean our brains will freeze if we have the choice to download content---just like our brains will freeze if there are too many streaming services. Since many of us have been downloading and watching movies from Amazon and cable companies for a long time, the Netflix statement is the most ridiculous thing I have heard since...they announced their rationale for dumping the Epix catalog. So much for watching as much as you want, anytime. Their motto should now be you can watch as much Adam Sandler as you want anytime you have access to a reliable internet connection.

I guess our brains will also freeze if they tell us when their content will expire. How difficult can it be to notify their streaming customers 30 days in advance of expiration dates. Oddly, if you have a DVD subscription, you can see when streaming titles expire 25 days in advance but you can't if you are a streaming customer? that makes no sense whatsoever.

David Speranza said...

Agreed, Wellesley72. The company seems to be going out of its way to alienate its more serious users. Counting down the days until I pull the plug...

Brian Clarkson said...

Wellesley72, they're botching this thing with Epix/downloading like they did when they planned separate services for DVD and streaming (remember Quixster?). I get their rationale (hey, we got exclusives coming), but so does HBO and they have like maybe 500-1000 titles per month max to spread throughout their multiple channels. I certainly hope Netflix isn't heading down this route. Was hoping that they would have planned something by now to boost the number of movies and help fill in the gaps until January 1.

Turns out that I'm losing 70 titles by October 1 from my queue. Good thing I have Hulu or I'd be more distraught. Still, it's kind of disturbing that Netflix is worried more about exclusivity than in assuring its customers that they're going to have more than enough movies for everyone. I'm not expecting them to change their mind about Epix, but I like being able to watch the foreign films/independent titles that I won't be able to see living in a small Kentucky town without having to resort to use illegal measures. Not so worried about Hunger Games/Transformers that I can rent from a video store, but I am worried about the depth.

And in 2015, it's inexcusable that a major streaming company doesn't have an expiration date that's easily visible to warn viewers that a title is going to go away soon. You just don't treat your customers in that way. Plus, you'd think if they did have some sort of warning that a film was leaving that people might decide to catch it before it goes away leading to increased traffic for the website.

Wellesley72 said...

Brian,

I am seriously considering getting Netflix for six months of the year and Hulu for the balance, mainly because of the exclusive deals that Hulu has cut with FX, AMC (which also includes new content on BBC America, Sundance TV and IFC TV) and TNT. It also looks like Hulu will share non-exclusive rights to IFC Films with Netflix and Amazon Prime. Netflix has an exclusive deal with Relativity Films, which just filed for bankruptcy and is selling its unreleased films to other studios. It also has an exclusive deal with Open Road Films that ens in 2016, after which first streaming rights go to Amazon, which has been aggressive in going after small independents for exclusive streaming rights to films. Netflix will have first streaming rights in 2016 to films from The Weinstein Company and its subsidiary, Dimension Films. Currently Showtime has those rights, although most of the Weinstein Films appear on Netflix about 30 days after they first appear on Showtime.

I think the Disney deal is great news but it's not going to have much effect in 2016. The deal applies to Disney and affiliated companies that release films after December 31, 2015. I believe that Netflix gets streaming rights to those new films about six months after their theatrical release. Looking at various web sites, it looks like the first film to be theatrically released in 2016 is in February, which means it won't stream on Netflix until next August. I think there is one other film being released in 2016 that will hit Netflix in 2016. After that, there are probably 4 to 6 films that will hit Netflix each year for the life of the deal. Many of them will be blockbusters but there just aren't enough of them to replace the new releases from Epix, and the 4 to 6 films that Netflix will release as "originals" are more niche movies that were offered to major studios but rejected because they were not projected to post a profit. So we will have a Netflix that has far fewer recent films, some "original" films, a diminishing number of non-original content and a lot of original content, some of which is very good but the majority of which is mediocre or just plain bad (Marco Polo, Hemlock Grove). Hmmm..Netflix is beginning to sound like HBO except that don't have films fro Fox, Universal Studios, Summit Entertainment or Warner Brothers. Plus they don't have the depth of original content that HBO has (of course, HBO has been around a lot longer) or the connections with Big name actors or directors to steer consistently good original content to them. Even in documentaries, HBO runs rings around Netflix.

So what is the "new" Netflix. Looks like a repository of original content that can attract an international audience, even though some of that content won't be popular in the U.S. (Like Adam Sandler films). It will have fewer films and TV shows made by others. Is this an "improved" Netflix? I kind of liked the "old" Netflix a whole lot better.

Brian Clarkson said...

Wellsley72: Until the new Disney movies pop up starting maybe in the second half of 2016, I was kinda hoping Disney/Marvel/Disneynature/etc. was going to open up its vault to partly make up for the loss of Epix. Like the older Disney movies and maybe some of the older Marvel films. I wish they had struck a short term deal to replace the 500+ titles that will vanish October 1 or stick with Epix for a one year deal. But they didn't.

I think maybe we might be getting some older films to compensate in the meantime. Looking over the list of October films coming, it appears that it's a bit heavier in older films like Clockwork Orange, 2001, the first two Bournes, and The Wild Bunch than it was before. While I'm not quite done trying to find more upcoming titles, it's a step in the right direction. Older films do tend to be cheaper than the newest blockbusters and could help fill in some gaps. I'll agree that seeing the low number of silents was alarming (we dropped from 50-7 thanks to TWO purges this year?). But I remain somewhat hopeful that Netflix has a few more tricks up its sleeve in the coming months to make things better. Otherwise, I predict they'll lose some of their beloved subscribers until they decide to fix things.

LinkLisa: Yeah, I reported that In-Betweeners was expiring. And it was, at least according to the DVD sections, until recently. I'm happy to see that's no longer the case. I've noticed that Netflix has been making a run at picking up some recently expired TV titles (Deep End, Persons Unknown, Terra Nova) of late. Maybe, that's also part of the plan?

I'm keeping Netflix for now and glad I got Hulu. But should I look into Amazon Prime as well considering their price drop tomorrow? Is it more than just a Netflix-lite, only they hung onto Epix?

Wellesley72 said...

Glad they are keeping the InBetweeners, which I found to be hilarious. Having watched all of Persons Unknown and one episode of Terra Nova, I'm not sure that it was worth renewing those shows. I guess we'll have to see if they pick up anything good. I read an article the other day saying that Fox was reconsidering licensing shows to Netflix (Fox is a 1/3 owner of Hulu, although so is Disney) and Time Warner might be thinking of moving some of their TV content onto HBO Now.

I am still hoping that Disney will be opening up its vaults to Netflix when their deal starts next year. While Starz is showing Disney content from about 2013 on, they are not showing earlier content like Toy Story and other Disney/Pixar movies. I don't think they have the rights to Marvel films made before Disney bought them, and the Star Wars films that Disney now owns (all but the first, which is Episode 4) are too valuable to license to Netflix in the U.S. (I think each movie sells for $35 on Amazon Instant Video.). I found it somewhat hopeful that Netflix licensed the streaming rights to Moonrise Kingdom, which had been on HBO for a while. If they continue to get rights to these types of movies, I may hang around.

I used to consider Amazon as Netflix-lite but I think they are going in a different direction than Netflix. Apart from its deal with PBS for exclusives on recent "Masterpiece" content, they really don't have a lot of new third-party content anymore. They seem to be more deliberate in coming out with original content than Netflix--note the not-so-subtle jab from Netflix saying no one gets hooked on a series based on one episode, which is clearly a dig at Amazon pilots. I don't no that being more deliberate makes them any better. Transparent is obviously a big hit but it's hard to name any others. Where I think that Amazon will shine is with third-party film content since they have a lot of exclusive licenses with excellent indie distributors like Music Box Films, A24 and Open Road films. I'm not sure why Netflix thinks that its original films are going to be better than the films that these distributors put out. Netflix would argue that you still have to wait 6 months or more from the time these films are shown theatrically until they show up on Amazon. While I think that may be true of major studios, I don't think it is true of small distributors since some of these movies may last a week or two in theaters or may not even be shown outside of large cities. A lof of those movies are going to show up on a streaming service within two to three months after being released in theaters, which is a lot faster than when the new Disney movies will show up. So while Netflix subscribers will be feasting on a quartet of Adam Sandler films, which will not be released in theaters, Amazon subscribers will be watching excellent content from smaller distributors. Which would you rather watch?

Wellesley72 said...

I wonder how much it cost Netflix to get exclusive world-wide streaming rights to season 1 of How to Get Away with Murder? Probably not much less than continuing with the Epix contract. And notice that the announcement made specific reference to season 1. Does that mean another expensive deal for Season 2? It might be cheaper for Netflix to just sell themselves to Disney. Then Disney can add on ESPN for $5/mo. more, and you would really have a streaming giant!

Pox Voldius said...

Anyone have a fix for NF streaming movies where the video is still set up for analog viewing on a tube TV and hasn't been de-interlaced for digital viewing? I've run into at least 3 or 4 like this in the past month, and it's rather distracting.

LarryG said...

Has anyone else noticed a change in the behavior of the MyList page? Since yesterday Friday, when I view the MyList page in Firefox browser, I no longer get the old red pop-up box with brief description, actors, director, movie year, movie length when I hover the mouse arrow over a title.
Now I have to right click through on each title, one by one, opening a new tab for each, and wait for the photos to load before I can see the information. Netflix has apparently just reduced the usefulness of the MyList page by removing another helpful old feature.
Does this change affect only the Firefox browser? Can anyone still see the old red pop-up box in the Chrome browser? Or in Internet Explorer?

Pox Voldius said...

@LarryG - I've noticed that, too. On the Chrome browser. :(

Pox Voldius said...

Ugh. I contacted NF "customer service" to complain about the latest change, and they tried to get me to put My List back into automatic mode if I wanted that information.

David Speranza said...

Jesus H., so now we can no longer see any expiration dates more than a week ahead of time--and then only if the title is in our queues!? Trying it now, I can't even go directly to a description page from a title or search result without the movie automatically playing. Argh! I am so tired of this shit, Netflix.

LarryG said...

Yes, David, this means Netflix has now effectively broken the Search box on the MyList webpage. But you CAN perform a normal search from the Search box on any new black background Netflix webpage. For example, search "Interview". Then clicking on a title's down arrow opens the movie's brief description Overview page [which used to be the red pop-up box]. Clicking on the Details link takes you to the new-layout full description page [which was the old one-page description page now broken into two]. But not done yet. Then click on the right arrow for more info to finally arrive at the Availability Date, when shown, listed under the Subtitles line.
If Netflix knew what they were doing, the Availability Date would be included on the blurb when you hover your mouse over the Search results movie posters. But they don't.

Pox Voldius said...

@LarryG - The cynic in me says that Netflix *does* know what they're doing, and they're hiding this stuff from their customers on purpose. We keep complaining about what they've been doing to the website, and they keep doubling down on it.

David Speranza said...

@LarryG: I did discover all that. But all those clicks are frankly a pain in the ass. Even more annoying is the inability to get any info on any of the titles in your queue without changing it to that awful Netflix Suggests view. And clicking on the title is no help--it then just plays automatically! Same goes for any search results from My List: you can see the thumbnail, but you can't find out anything about it or even add it to your queue.

@Pox: I tend to agree. They've been downright methodical in their attempts to make info on their site as difficult to find as possible.

Brian Clarkson said...

Tried to take advantage of the special they had for Amazon Prime and although I wasn't able to get it for $67, I was able to get a year at the student rate. It's not bad! I think between Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon that I should have enough films/shows to watch for a while. Almost forgot that Amazon has a deal going with HBO. So other than sports, I don't need cable now.

Pox Voldius said...

Here's an interesting article: "orange might be the new red: original content could easily bleed netflix dry" http://www.scottfearon.com/orange-might-be-the-new-red-original-content-could-easily-bleed-netflix-dry/

Sometimes I wonder if someone with decision-making power or influence at NF is sabotaging the company on purpose and planning to short-sell a bunch of stock, or something.

Wellesley72 said...

@Pox Voidus. An interesting article, although at this point in time even third-party content licensed from third parties is incredibly expensive given the competition from Amazon, Hulu and others. I think the real question, which isn't answered in the article, is when does it make sense for Netflix to just finance in part original content created by others (like House of Cards, OITNB) in exchange for a license that will run out at some point and basically giving up rights to DVD and iTunes sales as well as syndication rights to the show and when would it make sense for Netflix to own certain "originals" outright, which means fronting all of the costs in addition to paying for all production costs. Given the whimsical nature of the entertainment business, where you have more bombs than winners, I don't know the answer to that question. HBO owns most of its own content. Starz owns some of their content, and Amazon seems to own most of its own content as well (although the number of original shows on Amazon is probably too small to draw any conclusions. Netflix seems to be spending a lot of money on original content that it doesn't own. What is it getting for this? How long are the licenses for, and are they global exclusives. It's also possible that they are entering into joint production agreements on some of this content, in which they share the risks and rewards of a particular movie or show with another party. I can see Netflix owning "outright" some of their comedy specials and some of their less expensive shows. They are paying $12 million for Beasts of No Nation and Ted Sarandos shows up as an executive producer. Those kinds of titles sometimes go to a major star of the show as a prestige title, but most often they reflect the "money men" behind the production who are getting some kind of return. (Even among major studios, it is common for the studio to front only a portion of the cost of production, which explains the credits at the beginning of a film that may mention three to 10 participants.). This appears to be the best way for Netflix to go on movies unless it plans to start its own production arm. For TV shows, I think we are going to see a trend away from licensing third-party content as the costs of licensing continue to skyrocket. I think we are going to see more originals that are jointly financed by Netflix and another party, allowing for exclusive world-wide licensing (something that TV studios are reluctant to do now unless they can see a real big payday. (I don't even want to think about how much Netflix paid for the exclusive streaming rights to How to Get Away with Murder, but I expect it cost more than they are paying for some of their original content. At some point, when Netflix has a stronger financial base, they can go the HBO route and own and produce all of their original TV shows and a small number of films. As they spend more money on originals, the cost of third-party content will begin to drop as a balance is reached between supply and demand. I think we will always see third-party licensed content on Netflix, although I think there will be a bigger share of original content. I have no idea how that content will be financed but it seems ridiculous for Netflix to assume all the costs and risks of producing content if there is a better cost-sharing arrangement available. Maybe Netflix has to put up 60% of the cost of getting an exclusive, world-wide license for ten years, with an option to renew, as well as a share in any DVD or other sales and a percentage of syndication rights.

Unknown said...

Here are Netflix addition and expirations for October 2015.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2015/09/28/netflix-october-2015/73001722/

Starchild said...

Some great shows coming in October! I don't have any problems with Netflix, but I'm sorry for those who do. I actually like the new format, since they fixed it a bit. I find I can get more information quickly. Maybe I'm just weird.
Lots of classics coming - I like the way Netflix rotates them. Of course, Netflix streams a lot of my favorite series, like Bones and CSI and Poirot. I don't even like any of their original shows, even the popular ones. No interest in life in prison or zombies! When Epix movies left, I had about 30 left on my list. I immediately got 10 of them from the library. So many sources for movies. I just signed up for Prime, for the free shipping, and I can get movies there too. Life is good, even for those of us who are disabled!